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jopl Site Admin
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: Davar4 - features |
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Hi folks!
As title says, Davar4 is about 4 months under heavy development. It should keep most of features of D3 and add many new ones. For D4 plans are following:
1) UNICODE (UTF-8 ) encoding, kick off terrible codepages. DONE
Right now, D4 displays well also Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Arabic, ... and all other languages.
2) Tagged Hebrew texts. D3 could use tags only for L2R directions. DONE
Unicode made this request really simple
3) Better support for Hebrew texts. Qere/Ketiv coloring. Vocalization and cantilization marks (so BHS looks much better than in D3). ALMOST DONE
4) Hebrew morphology. The only way, how to (legally) use WHM morphology is to buy licence from Westminster Hebrew Institute. The cost is US$ 7. This will be modul for D4, where user will need to buy key. ALMOST DONE
Also planned to add:
Better search - similar to BW or TheWord programs, regular expressions, statistical results of searching, search for text, strong#, reference and partially for HE/GR morphology and lemmas.
Gematria - it should be special "tool window" for gematria work - search verses/words with some values, calculations,.. also have permission to use some gematria lexicons
... let me here your ideas, what you expect in Davar4! _________________ Davar developer |
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Jonatan
Joined: 06 Mar 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: Davar4 - features |
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Maybe automatic transliteration could be done if it would be that fast. Some script that reads the hebrew or greek text automatically and in another window displays immediately transliteration.  _________________ שלום אליכם
[shalom aleichem]
peace unto thou! |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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Dear Friend JOPL.
Iīm a beggining user of davar 3. And I found it so existing. But really I have to much problems to syncronize the reading of BHS. I read all the indications in HELP, but itīs very difficult for me. Zorry.
I suggest this option will be easyer. To create and use files AIX, looks very complicated.
I rather it will be automatical, may be just clicking the verses, etc.
Thanks for all.
This program its a very great blessing.
(Iīll thank you if explain me how to syncronize the window of BHS with the media player. I already download mp3 files from mechom-mamre web)
Edgardo |
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jopl Site Admin
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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| Edgardo wrote: | Dear Friend JOPL.
Iīm a beggining user of davar 3. And I found it so existing. But really I have to much problems to syncronize the reading of BHS. I read all the indications in HELP, but itīs very difficult for me. Zorry.
I suggest this option will be easyer. To create and use files AIX, looks very complicated.
I rather it will be automatical, may be just clicking the verses, etc.
Thanks for all.
This program its a very great blessing.
(Iīll thank you if explain me how to syncronize the window of BHS with the media player. I already download mp3 files from mechom-mamre web)
Edgardo |
1)If you downloaded basic package, with Ecclesiasties in MP3, just click in library tree - audio to speaker icon with BHS narration. It will become colored => AIX is opened. Then open BHS, list Ecclesiasties and click "Play" button => green triangle in toolbar. I think, it is clear and in manual.
2)Creating of Audio index (AIX) is for skilled users, which want to experiment. Users, which did all BHS indexing did it without problems - thank to them, we have ~ 24 hours of MP3 indexed. It works, AFAIK well.
3)Synchronise BHS in Davar3 with media player ... nice joke.
If you describe step by step what is wrong in playing/indexing ... you can get exact answer. _________________ Davar developer |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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[quote="jopl"][quote="Edgardo"]Dear Friend JOPL.
Iīm a beggining user of davar 3. And I found it so existing. But really I have to much problems to syncronize the reading of BHS. I read all the indications in HELP, but itīs very difficult for me. Zorry.
I suggest this option will be easyer. To create and use files AIX, looks very complicated.
I rather it will be automatical, may be just clicking the verses, etc.
Thanks for all.
This program its a very great blessing.
(Iīll thank you if explain me how to syncronize the window of BHS with the media player. I already download mp3 files from mechom-mamre web)
Edgardo[/quote]
1)If you downloaded basic package, with Ecclesiasties in MP3, just click in library tree - audio to speaker icon with BHS narration. It will become colored => AIX is opened. Then open BHS, list Ecclesiasties and click "Play" button => green triangle in toolbar. I think, it is clear and in manual.
2)Creating of Audio index (AIX) is for skilled users, which want to experiment. Users, which did all BHS indexing did it without problems - thank to them, we have ~ 24 hours of MP3 indexed. It works, AFAIK well.
3)Synchronise BHS in Davar3 with media player ... nice joke.
If you describe step by step what is wrong in playing/indexing ... you can get exact answer.[/quote]
TAHNK YOU FOR THE ANSWER, IīLL TRY AGAIN. AND IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEMīIīLL NOTIFY YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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[quote="Edgardo"][quote="jopl"][quote="Edgardo"]Dear Friend JOPL.
Iīm a beggining user of davar 3. And I found it so existing. But really I have to much problems to syncronize the reading of BHS. I read all the indications in HELP, but itīs very difficult for me. Zorry.
I suggest this option will be easyer. To create and use files AIX, looks very complicated.
I rather it will be automatical, may be just clicking the verses, etc.
Thanks for all.
This program its a very great blessing.
(Iīll thank you if explain me how to syncronize the window of BHS with the media player. I already download mp3 files from mechom-mamre web)
Edgardo[/quote]
1)If you downloaded basic package, with Ecclesiasties in MP3, just click in library tree - audio to speaker icon with BHS narration. It will become colored => AIX is opened. Then open BHS, list Ecclesiasties and click "Play" button => green triangle in toolbar. I think, it is clear and in manual.
2)Creating of Audio index (AIX) is for skilled users, which want to experiment. Users, which did all BHS indexing did it without problems - thank to them, we have ~ 24 hours of MP3 indexed. It works, AFAIK well.
3)Synchronise BHS in Davar3 with media player ... nice joke.
If you describe step by step what is wrong in playing/indexing ... you can get exact answer.[/quote]
TAHNK YOU FOR THE ANSWER, IīLL TRY AGAIN. AND IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEMīIīLL NOTIFY YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.[/quote]
WELL, here Iīm again. The problem persists.
I think I didnīt download ok.
Please, explain me. I have the file eclessiastes into the folder davar3/audio. I allready unzipped it, but, doesn't work from "the green triangle".. Do you have some suggestion?.  |
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jopl Site Admin
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 61
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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| Edgardo wrote: | | Edgardo wrote: | | jopl wrote: | | Edgardo wrote: | Dear Friend JOPL.
Iīm a beggining user of davar 3. And I found it so existing. But really I have to much problems to syncronize the reading of BHS. I read all the indications in HELP, but itīs very difficult for me. Zorry.
I suggest this option will be easyer. To create and use files AIX, looks very complicated.
I rather it will be automatical, may be just clicking the verses, etc.
Thanks for all.
This program its a very great blessing.
(Iīll thank you if explain me how to syncronize the window of BHS with the media player. I already download mp3 files from mechom-mamre web)
Edgardo |
1)If you downloaded basic package, with Ecclesiasties in MP3, just click in library tree - audio to speaker icon with BHS narration. It will become colored => AIX is opened. Then open BHS, list Ecclesiasties and click "Play" button => green triangle in toolbar. I think, it is clear and in manual.
2)Creating of Audio index (AIX) is for skilled users, which want to experiment. Users, which did all BHS indexing did it without problems - thank to them, we have ~ 24 hours of MP3 indexed. It works, AFAIK well.
3)Synchronise BHS in Davar3 with media player ... nice joke.
If you describe step by step what is wrong in playing/indexing ... you can get exact answer. |
TAHNK YOU FOR THE ANSWER, IīLL TRY AGAIN. AND IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEMīIīLL NOTIFY YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. |
WELL, here Iīm again. The problem persists.
I think I didnīt download ok.
Please, explain me. I have the file eclessiastes into the folder davar3/audio. I allready unzipped it, but, doesn't work from "the green triangle".. Do you have some suggestion?.  |
1) You need to have file \Davar3\audio\bhs\21_ecclesiastes.mp3 and \Davar3\audio\bhs.aix
It should be already done after installation. ARE THOSE FILES THERE???
2)just click in library tree - audio to speaker icon with BHS narration. It will become colored => AIX is opened. Then open BHS, list Ecclesiasties and click "Play" button => green triangle in toolbar. _________________ Davar developer |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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HELLO.
When I download the program, I found "zipped" files, I had to unzipp them. Well, after I have this route:
C:\Davar3\audio\[color=red]bhs_aix[/color]\21_ecclesiastes.mp3 and \Davar3\audio\[color=red]bhs_aix[/color]\bhs.aix
The tree of the frontpage looks: Audio[o] Does it mean that don`t find the files?.
Thanks again.
Edgardo. |
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jopl Site Admin
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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| Edgardo wrote: | HELLO.
When I download the program, I found "zipped" files, I had to unzipp them. Well, after I have this route:
C:\Davar3\audio\bhs_aix\21_ecclesiastes.mp3 and \Davar3\audio\bhs_aix\bhs.aix
The tree of the frontpage looks: Audio[o] Does it mean that don`t find the files?.
Thanks again.
Edgardo. |
Edgardo, is it so complicated to get http://www.davar3.net/files/davar3_setup.exe
then run this exe with default c:\Davar3 path and install it?
When you then observe paths, you will find exactly what I described in post above and NOT your paths.
Again: correct path is: C:\Davar3\audio\bhs\21_ecclesiastes.mp3
and C:\Davar3\audio\bhs.aix
so change your path and directories manually please. _________________ Davar developer |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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[quote="jopl"][quote="Edgardo"]HELLO.
When I download the program, I found "zipped" files, I had to unzipp them. Well, after I have this route:
C:\Davar3\audio\[color=red]bhs_aix[/color]\21_ecclesiastes.mp3 and \Davar3\audio\[color=red]bhs_aix[/color]\bhs.aix
The tree of the frontpage looks: Audio[o] Does it mean that don`t find the files?.
Thanks again.
Edgardo.[/quote]
Edgardo, is it so complicated to get [url]http://www.davar3.net/files/davar3_setup.exe[/url]
then run this exe with default c:\Davar3 path and install it?
When you then observe paths, you will find exactly what I described in post above and NOT your paths.
Again: correct path is: C:\Davar3\audio\bhs\21_ecclesiastes.mp3
and C:\Davar3\audio\bhs.aix
so change your path and directories manually please.[/quote]
OH YES, DONīT CARE, I ALREADY TRYED THOSE ALTERNATIVES. THE PROBLEM IS THAT DONīT WORKS FROM THE TREE AND THE "GREEN TRIANGLE", I DONīT KNOW WHY. BUT, THE MODE I USE TO EAR THE MP3, IS "CLICKKING" IN MULTIMEDIA MENU, AND AFTER I SELECT THE MP3 FILE IN A WINDOW. REALLY I TRYED THOSE OPTIONS. BUT, I THANK YOUR PATIENCE. I DIDNīT WISH TO ANNOY YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND. SORRY. THANKS FOR ALL. |
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jopl Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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[quote="Edgardo"][quote="jopl"] | Edgardo wrote: |
OH YES, DONīT CARE, I ALREADY TRYED THOSE ALTERNATIVES. THE PROBLEM IS THAT DONīT WORKS FROM THE TREE AND THE "GREEN TRIANGLE", I DONīT KNOW WHY. BUT, THE MODE I USE TO EAR THE MP3, IS "CLICKKING" IN MULTIMEDIA MENU, AND AFTER I SELECT THE MP3 FILE IN A WINDOW. REALLY I TRYED THOSE OPTIONS. BUT, I THANK YOUR PATIENCE. I DIDNīT WISH TO ANNOY YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND. SORRY. THANKS FOR ALL. |
1) Edgardo, this forum is for solving problems, so it is OK to discusse it here
2) While I put few questions, I have not exact answers to them and it is hard to find bug in D3 (if it is bug). So, if you wish to sqeeze the bug, please give me answers to this specific questions:
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Uninstall D3 and run clear installation - use file from
http://www.davar3.net/files/davar3_setup.exe
with default c:\Davar3 path and do full installation. Do you see after installation folders:
c:\Davar3\audio\
c:\Davar3\audio\bhs\
and files:
c:\Davar3\audio\bhs.aix
c:\Davar3\audio\bhs\21_ecclesiastes.mp3
Let me know, what EXACTLY was created on your hard drive.
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If first part passed, describe be what happen, when:
- start D3
- open BHS Hebrew text and list Ecclesiastes 1:1
- in library tree, unfold Audio branch and double click to [BHS] Hebrew OL narration
- then press PLAY button in toolbar (this green triangle)
Without exact answers to questions above, we cannot move on. _________________ Davar developer |
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Edgardo
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Location: LIMA PERU
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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Dear Friend:
Thank you for your answers.
I already have fixed the problem. I uninstalled the application, and run again the installer. Then, no more problems. I think I had done something bad the last time, although, i donīt know what (I remember, the first time I had to unzzip files, but not this time).
But now i can play the Mp3 of ecclesiastes, and I have converted else the mp3 of "mamre web, hebrew bible book by book" with a little aplication that you have in your web. Now I can ear and read simultaneously any book of the Bible.
Thanks for all. I know I have maden a lot of question, I thank your patience again.
Something else, I think that the DAvar 4 could include a window to write the personal coments about some verses. (Have you used e-sword?; it has this feature and itīs so usefull)
Thank you for all.
Edgardo |
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jopl Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Davar4 - features |
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| Edgardo wrote: | Dear Friend:
Thank you for your answers.
I already have fixed the problem. I uninstalled the application, and run again the installer. Then, no more problems. I think I had done something bad the last time, although, i donīt know what (I remember, the first time I had to unzzip files, but not this time).
But now i can play the Mp3 of ecclesiastes, and I have converted else the mp3 of "mamre web, hebrew bible book by book" with a little aplication that you have in your web. Now I can ear and read simultaneously any book of the Bible.
Thanks for all. I know I have maden a lot of question, I thank your patience again.
Something else, I think that the DAvar 4 could include a window to write the personal coments about some verses. (Have you used e-sword?; it has this feature and itīs so usefull)
Thank you for all.
Edgardo |
WOW - Baruch HaSheM!
Seems you did something wrong or used "minimal" version of program, installed from zip. It needs more knowledge and thus I recommended bigger "Basic" package.
About user notes: of course, it will be in D4, know e-sword and will take inspiration from there (and other programs too). All will be managed my SQLite database - so you will have in D4 except notes also editable dictionaries, lexicons and coloring of texts....all by use of this database. _________________ Davar developer |
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jonatasdh
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:15 am Post subject: Davar for Mac |
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Hi Jopl!
Have you considered yet the possibility of making a version for Mac OS X?
I've been reading that you have to generate a package that contains all files of the program, and there's some softwares that help you to do this.
I don't know how it works, but it would be a great asset for Davar program.
Thank's!! |
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jopl Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Davar for Mac |
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| jonatasdh wrote: |
Have you considered yet the possibility of making a version for Mac OS X?
I've been reading that you have to generate a package that contains all files of the program, and there's some softwares that help you to do this.
I don't know how it works, but it would be a great asset for Davar program.
Thank's!! |
Hello,
I'm sory, but for Davar4 is not intended MAC version. My experiences with MAC are simply zero, I never had this and probably will not have in future. There is very much Windows dependent code in Davar.
I have small idea - to play with widgets (http://www.wxwidgets.org/) and start to use it, in future. Maybe...it will be for Davar. But hard to predict. _________________ Davar developer |
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